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1 Uncategorized
2 Import
3 Backlog Admin Group
4 FSF

Uncategorized

Add-GNU-promoted-text-to-GNU-entries-automatically

This text is included in all GNU entries:

'''Selection from the [https://shop.fsf.org/ FSF shop]'''

[https://shop.fsf.org/books/free-freedom-20-richard-stallman Free as in Freedom 2.0, by Richard Stallman]

[https://shop.fsf.org/books-docs/introduction-command-line Introduction to the Command Line]

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'''[https://www.gnu.org/help/help.html Helping the GNU Project and the Free Software Movement]'''
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If you have corrections to this entry or questions about it, please contact: mailto:maintainers@gnu.org
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I think we should:

~~Remove the above text from all entries listed in GNU~~
~~Place the above text in a template, say Template:GNU_promotions~~
Convert this texted idea to SMW code: if "Is GNU=Yes" then use Template:GNU_promotions"
Add the code to https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Template:Show or some other link found at https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Backlog_Admin_Group#How_to_modify_the_form_edit

1. Is now solved (sysadmin: please execute runjobs.php when appropriate to apply the substitutions and allow for further development of this Backlog Task). --LorenzoAncora (talk) 14:07, 4 December 2020 (EST)

2. Is now solved (see Template:GNU_promotions). --LorenzoAncora (talk) 13:08, 4 December 2020 (EST)

3. Stalled by pt. 1.

1520

Make comments in License namespace point to license evaluation page of GNU project if they exist there. This should also add the benefit of having that page translated to the contributor or visitor/guest's language.

Is there a way for us to HTTP ping those without using JavaScript?
I think we'll need to add a dedicated script. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 15:26, 24 April 2020 (EDT)

Replace-License-text-in-program-entries

See Free_Software_Directory:SPDX_Group for text to replace

Avoid https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:ReplaceText

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:ReplaceText is limited to 250 pages per execution. That means to much job, "License:GPLv2orlater" is used in 4471 pages to give a picture.
to slow, 10 pages modified in 3 minutes (https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges monitored), or 250 pages in 90 minutes.

Original text:
|License=GPLv3orlater
Replacement text:
|License=GPL-3.0-or-later

Search in namespaces:Main
Replace only in category: Entry

Do not use regex like this, it will add "^

453654

Proposed features for the FSD

665349

Category browsing

494394

Add a link for binary download?

348594

Need to implement mass-emails about email verification, and directions for changing preferences.

905235

Add/update GNU packages

593493

Put a link to site dumps and info about the machine readability of that information on the main page.

David, clarification is required. Please specify the position of the site dumps. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2019 (EDT)

345653

Pages incorrectly created with Form:Bug_update (without the "Review:" namespace prefix) are queryable. If they are then moved to the Review: namespace, then they remain queryable. I'm not sure if a non-admin can edit the page, which could let them create a false entry in the directory.

453224

Add "table of contents" header above tabs inside noscript tags so that it only displays when javascript is turned off.

234ed3

We need to let people submit bug reports, etc. without javascript enabled. If we could use something like a "noscript" tag, then we could display the following link: active&namespace=Review Example bug report link

432490

'new messages' text overlays the red FSF links bar, so you can't click it. Still, you can just click your 'talk' page link instead.

23431f

"New Packages RSS feed"'s license verification dates are messed up.

d34234

Conditional statements should be created for various properties (e.g., "Audio:mp3" should result in "works-with::Audio" being set on a page automatically).

451154

Implement an in-browser irc client that displays only when meetings are live on the Main Page in addition to the "The meeting is active right now!" (see Template:IRC_text).

That will require a free SaaSS (like https://webchat.freenode.net/) but we don't recommend third-party SaaSS in general, however I think this would be ok if the FSF should embed a web-based IRC widget into something like irc://webchat.fsf.org/fsf (for the Directory) and irc://webchat.fsf.org/libreplanet (for Libre Planet). However, the listed web-based IRC clients are not compatible with LibreJS, that must be fixed first. The authors of these programs accept patches, perhaps the FSF can evaluate which client the want to use and patch it? Related: IceCat, Free web-based IRC client replacement for Mibbit needed. --David Hedlund (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

453654

Create a new standard template to list the translations of each page in a professional way. --LorenzoAncora (talk)

On second thought we should use a dedicated module, so we can enlist the translations on the left user bar. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 15:01, 15 May 2020 (EDT)

set-empty-default-values

This is a Semantic MediaWiki issue.

I find that most of my problems concerning empty or missing properties in a template are helped by setting default template values. You might need to poke runJobs.php. Then you can query on the default value. So you might have Template:Software looking like:

Software license: None

Then you can pick out the pages with undeclared software license by ask'ing on None to get the ones that aren't declared.

homepage-should-not-be-required

The "Homepage" field should not mandatory to fill in entries. For Icedove doesn't have any homepage and it shouldn't be set to the Thunderbird homepage because it's not free due to trade mark issues.

FSD:Backlog#Donald

non-official-compiled-or-non-source-releases

Should we add to FSD:Requirements that we only permit data related to official releases? For example, the current Windows download link for IceCat is unofficial, but it's made by jenslody@fedoraproject.org

(20:43:02) David_Hedlund: But it's still a unofficial release. I think we should discuss this policy.

Import

import-GNU-packages

Make a script to generate XML files that syncs GNU with https://www.gnu.org/software/ which also list decommissioned GNU packages, a property that also should be imported, see https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Property:Decommissioned/Obsolete See https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/User_talk:Bendikker/cleanlinksgnusoftware (deleted, I asked why: User_talk:Bendikker#cleanlinksgnusoftware) for other examples.

import-screenshots

https://screenshots.debian.net/

It's not possible to download the archive right now.

" The current version features a large JSON blog that gives you information about all packages and the related screenshots. You could load the screenshots directly from directory.fsf.org if you like. That's what several other websites like packages.debian.org do. The only challenge you would face might be to match the "upstream" package name

to the software name you use in your database." -- Christoph Haas, the Debian Screenshots maintainer

import-icons

The https://screenshots.debian.net/ maintainer said that he will add icons for Debian packages (provided by https://wiki.debian.org/AppStream) in the bug tracker: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debshots/boards.

2340s222

Make it possible to upload software icons in the edit form. Display the icons next to the title in the entries. I asked https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/User_talk:Vibhuti to do this (and to write down a howto in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Backlog_Admin_Group#How_to_add_file_upload_to_form_edit) since she made it possible to upload screenshots in the edit form recently. --David Hedlund (talk) 15:16, 20 April 2018 (EDT)

import-other-repo-data

* awesome-gamedev

Debian Med
GetDeb, and it's sister project Playdeb

wikidata

Take data from wikidata.org that's not in Debian's main repository.

XML-update

Please study these XML outputs in IceCat

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:Export/IceCat/NoScript (view-source)
https://addons.mozilla.org/api/v3/addons/addon/noscript/ (view-source)
- https://addons.mozilla.org/api/v3/addons/addon/noscript/versions/1910123/ (view-source)

It's time to export the old add-on list https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:IceCat_extensions_(proposed)/ from the FSD, then import the new list with 600̈́+ add-ons, then merge the extra field from the backup to it.

My example (look for differences) when I want to import 600 add-ons:

{{Entry
|Name=NoScript
|Short description=Only enable JavaScript for sites you trust.
|Full description=The '''NoScript''' (aka '''NoScript Security Suite''') Firefox extension provides extra protection for Firefox, Seamonkey and other Mozilla-based browsers.  Its aim is to allow active content to run only from sites you trust, and protect yourself against XSS and Click-jacking attacks.  It is also useful to prevent Flash running on the browser.

But its main advantage could be the alerts given on its interface. There is an increasing number of Web sites that cannot run without non-free JavaScript programs downloaded and executed on the visitor's computer. Richard Stallman first raised this another concern with his article [https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html The JavaScript Trap], pointing out that most JavaScript programs are not freely licensed, and that even free software Web browsers are usually configured to download and run these non-free programs without informing the user.  So maybe NoScript could encourage people to keep informed about this related issue and [https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs take action].

Anyway, NoScript is an extremely valuable Firefox extension for security. Its unique white-list based pre-emptive script blocking approach prevents exploitation of security vulnerabilities (known and even not known yet!) with no loss of functionality...
|Homepage URL=https://noscript.net/
|User level=intermediate
|Extension of=IceCat
|Documentation note=Install NoScript and enable ‘Forbid scripts globally’ to improve the security of your browser by preventing 0day JavaScript attacks. This is a drastic option as it will render many websites unusable as they rely heavily on JavaScript. NoScript offers a whitelist you can use to selectively enable JavaScript for sites you trust, but this is considered [https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#TBBCanIBlockJS especially bad for your anonymity] if you're using NoScript with Tor.
|Related projects=GNU LibreJS, NoScript Anywhere
|Version identifier=2.6.9.25.1-signed
|Version date=2015/05/23
|Version status=stable
|Version download=https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/318124/noscript_security_suite-2.6.9.25-sm+fn+fx.xpi
|Last review by=David Hedlund
|Last review date=2016/04/21
|Status=
|Is GNU=No
}}
{{Project license
|License=GPLv2
|License verified by=enyst
|License verified date=2013/03/24
}}
{{Resource
|Resource audience=Users
|Resource kind=Forum
|Resource URL=https://forums.informaction.com/viewforum.php?f=3
}}
{{Software category
|Internet-application=privacy
|Use=internet-application, security
}}
{{Featured}}

consistent-CSS-styling

Some custom templates have CSS style="" clauses scattered in them. One of such clauses was responsible for too narrow columns in the description. I'd suggest to:

Check all local style clauses in our custom code
Determine if they can be more generic. For example, colors, paddings, line widths should be unified to achieve visual consistency.
A set of CSS classes should be designed to replace style clauses
CSS class naming scheme should be decided
New CSS classes should be introduced to MediaWiki:Common.css
style clauses should be replaced with their class="css-class" counterparts.

Backlog Admin Group

Main-page

Draft:Main page This section and page is reserved because it represents the site. If it does not exist, it means that we are not working on it at the moment but will work on it at some point in the future.

edit-with-form-has-to-be-reloaded-to-work

Software entries have a "Edit with form" tab. Example, https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Gnuzilla&action=formedit You have to reload the page in the browser to make the tabs visible (including the "Save" tab). Volunteers who doesn't know about will most likely not be able to update existing entries. --David Hedlund (talk) 08:50, 14 May 2020 (EDT)

A possible solution could involve defining a checkbox with opacity:0 (display:none doesn't work for this); make the tab title as a label for that checkbox; and style the tab content so that when the checkbox is checked, the contents show and all the rest disappears. --Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

Please could you extend this issue by adding a link to a video/GIF which shows the steps to reproduce the bug in a popular web browser? --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

display-a-Role-column

See Free Software Directory:Backlog Admin Group/Sandbox2

"Tried everything I could but can't make it combine team, role, IRC and time zone. There are two options:

a) Make Property:Member of team of type Record, and so allow it to hold a team+role a pair, but for that each user *must* use to *set* Property:Member of team *for each* team they are member of. This will have caveat that there will be *no known way* to get both the user's role and his time zone and IRC nick, since these two will be blank. This also has disadvantage that anyone could declare themselves as Team Captain and no notification would be sent regarding that.

b) Make Property:Member of team of type Page and so forget the roles and only refer to team pages. This allows queries to see both the users' time zone and IRC nick, besides being simple to set (because you can either use or TEAM PAGE. As a side note, the Team Captain would still have to declare his role in the teams' main page anyways, since this is the most important role. Besides, provided everyone involved has that page in their watchlist, then no one would dare autodeclare themselves as Team Captain.

I applied (b) for now since I think it's the best option. As a side note if we no longer will use Property:Team captain nor [[Property:Team

member]], we should remove it." - Adonay, 2020-05-05 05:21

Module-Countdown

We should ask the FSF if the tech team can install https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Countdown in MediaWiki

If they agree, then we must implement recurring events first in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Countdown and then install it on the Directory. --David Hedlund (talk) 13:00, 14 February 2020 (EST)

I don't agree, the current implementation in wikicode works correctly and the compatibility of an unofficial module must be guaranteed manually from version to version. Furthermore, replacing the work already done would make all the time spent useless, with minimal advantages. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 13:58, 14 February 2020 (EST)

The issue was solved, so we can archive this Active Backlog Task. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 15:01, 15 May 2020 (EDT)

High-Priority-Projects-Project-Teams-and-Translations

The high priority pages consist of collections and categories that manually have been added to https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page like this:

  <li>[[Collection:PRISM|PRISM]] (collection)</li>
  <li>[[Collection:Privacy pack|Privacy pack]] (collection)</li>
  <li>[[Category/Interface/accessibility|Interface: Accessibility]]</li>
  <li>[[Category/Internet-application/privacy|Internet-application: Privacy]]</li>
  <li>[[Category/Internet-application/security|Internet-application: Security]]</li>
  <li>[[Category/Live-communications|Live-communications]]</li>
  <li>[[Category/Protocol/tor|Protocol: Tor]]</li>
  <li>[[Category/Security|Security]]</li>

n2io34d

Check the sandbox: I cannot get rid of the "Category/", and the coma, from the text in the links. The links should be formatted like they are displayed at https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Template:Category_table_divided. --David Hedlund (talk) 08:41, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

it234902

is not listed at Free Software Directory:Backlog Admin Group/Sandbox

pl329423

Special:PermanentLink/80634 has my attempt to fix most of these. I was unable to solve the case of Category:Translations subcategories not being listed. --Adfeno (talk) 22:06, 24 April 2020 (EDT)

form-entry-accessibility-BAG

Form:Entry is not accessible specially for devices with small screens or for text browsers, this is related to the use of table-like elements like the ones in "Categories" tab and also some other places where it could make use of list boxes and dropdown menus. --Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

We won't abandon the existing table layout, however there is no reason for not making it adaptive, as HTML tables can be stylized like any other element and are still fully supported.
I believe we should add a CSS fix for small-screen/mobile devices. Feel free to propose (a tested) one during the next FSD meetings. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

form-entry-general-info-proposal-BAG

Here are proposals for the "General info" tab of Form:Entry.

Move "Dev languages" to Categories ("Programming-language").
Remove "Related projects". Categories do this instead. One could also make a link to a separate query (no need to embed the query), with which the person could look for other projects which have similar properties or categories.
Make "User level" a dropdown, since only one can be selected.
Remove "Component programs" and make redirects named after each values inside these. If the entry A is also known as B and no other program has the same alias (B), then B should be a redirect to A.
While "Checksum" suggests to paste the result of sum command, Property:Checksum is URL, and many packages use it to point to actual files where the result of sha256sum, sha512sum or md5sum are stored, and none of these are related to sum command.
Move "Test entry" to the top. The idea is to advise users to use this more often when they are not confortable with their edits.

--Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

I do not agree with pt. 1 to 4 but I agree with pt. 5 and 6, at the following conditions: sum should be replaced with SHA or MD5 and "Test Entry" should be smaller and placed in the top-right angle of the form and not keyboard selectable. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

form-entry-licenses-proposal-BAG

For the "Licenses" tab of Form:Entry, remove "License copyright" because copyright changes too fast and this makes the user think that they have to add another license ("Add another" button) for each occurrence of the same license but with different copyright notice. --Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

This does not seem the best solution, how about adding a clarification near the copyright widget? --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

form-entry-resource-info-proposal-BAG

In "Resource info" tab from Form:Entry, I suggest to make "Resource audience" have fixed selection of values, such as: "General", "Development", "Announcement".

Also, change "Resource kind" so that:

"Mailing List Subscribe" and "Mailing List Info/Archive" are merged with "Mailing List".
Remove "VCS Repository Webview".
Make "Bug Tracking", "Developer", "General", "Support" and all their "Subscribe" counter parts instances to "Mailing List" and add "Resource audience" corresponding to the first names I said (example: "Bug Tracking", "Support")
Rename "Download" to "Object code download" or "Non-source download" or "Binary download".

--Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

I agree only with pt. 1 and 4. We can do pt. 4 directly during the next meeting, but for pt. 1 we should take into account the DB. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

form-entry-categories-proposal-BAG

This is a proposal for the "Categories" tab of Form:Entry.

Generally, make each category a listbox. This makes the place less crowded. Also, we must avoid name conflicts, like "security" in "Internet-application" and "internet" in "Security". The proposed mapping would be like this (as page names):

Goal-to-be-used-for
- comparing
- converting
- editing
- playing-or-viewing
Goal-to-enhance-development
- Downcase all from "Version-control"
- bug-tracking-system
- debugging
- game-development
- manual-or-automated-build
- small-specific-development-task
- static-analysis
- version-control
Goal-to-work-with-data-of-type
- 2d
- 3d
- archive-or-backup
- audio
- barcode
- color-profile
- contact
- date-or-time
- dictionary
- metadata
- model-or-project
- plot
- raster-image
- text
- text-font
- vector-image
- video
Goal-to-work-with-database-or-query-language
- blockchain
- recutils
- sparql
- sql
- xpath
Goal-to-work-with-multimedia-format
- mp3
- iso9660
- ogg-vorbis
- speex
- flac
- ogg-theora
- opus
- webm
- flv
- swf
Goal-to-work-with-structure-or-style-language
- atom
- css
- csv-or-dsv
- docbook
- enriched-text
- html
- json
- latex
- markdown
- mediawiki
- opendocument
- org-mode
- pdf
- portable-object
- postscript
- rdf
- rich-text-format
- rss
- sgml
- smil
- svg
- tex
- texinfo
- textile
- webvtt
- xml
- xsl
- yaml
Interface-through
- bot
- console
- daemon-or-server
- email
- library
- web
- Downcase all from "UI-toolkit"
Other-goal
- accessibility
- accounting
- animation-or-movie-making
- architecture
- astronomy
- authentication
- automated-theorem-proving
- aviation
- biology
- chemistry
- commerce
- design
- education
- encryption
- engineering
- faxing
- financial-mathematics
- firewall
- forensics
- gaming-or-entertainment
- genealogy
- geography
- geology
- ham-radio
- health-care
- home-automation
- layouting-or-typesetting
- live-communcation
- meteorology
- model-or-quality-checking
- monitoring
- network-routing
- news-aggregation-or-reading
- payment-system
- physics
- psychology
- productivity
- project-management
- publishing
- scheduling
- security
- simulation
- software-configuration
- sports
- statistics
- stock-market
- symbolic-mathematics
- telephony
- localization-or-translation
- virtualization
Programming-language
- Downcase all from the original
- Move "c++" to "cpp" or "c-plus-plus"
- lisp
- r
Protocol
- Downcase all from the original
- tcp
Runs-on
- Downcase all from the original

--Adfeno (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)

This issue was already solved in your absence during the latest FSD meeting (May the 1st) by fixing the existing CSS to guarantee correct alignment and subdivision. For now it would not be wise to change the UX so much, but I suggest to keep your tip here for the future. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

other2377

Property:Resource URL is of type string/text, this allows any value, even phone numbers, SIP, XMPP, etc. Perhaps we should use something along the lines of "Allows pattern" special property in order to avoid abuses. Property:Resource URL is the one currently used in the entry form when someone fills the "resource URL".

frm5d33

To "Edit with form" (Example: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=IceCat&action=formedit&debug=true#tab=1__General_info):

General info: Inbuilt extensions -- Each entry represent a list titled Extensions, plug-ins, or add-ons for this program (see |Extension of= in Template:Entry). We should add a Inbuilt extensions, plug-ins, or add-ons for this program. For example LibreJS is inbuilt in IceCat.
- Adfeno made Property:Inbuilt extension of and set this in the entry for LibreJS (which was moved to its own page to), it's set to point to IceCat. However, respecting the #ask query requirements in Template:Show, it will only display if Property:License copyright exists in LibreJS.
- I added "This is an inbuilt extension, add-on, or plugin to: IceCat" in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/HTML5_Video_Everywhere!, https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/LibreJS, and https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/HTTPS_Everywhere, but only "Inbuilt extensions, plug-ins, or add-ons for this program HTML5 Video Everywhere!" is listed in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/IceCat
  - Adfeno says: This is because Template:Show demands that for the entries to be displayed they must have all of the following properties set: Property:License, Property:License copyright, Property:License verified by, Property:License verified date. Personally, as well as to avoid any potentially non-free entry to be listed, I consider this a wontfix.
~~General info:Decommissioned/Obsolete~~
~~General info: Checksum~~
~~OpenPGP signature URL~~
~~OpenPGP public key~~
~~Resource info -> Resource kind: Telephony~~
~~Resource info -> Resource kind: Videotelephony~~
~~Resource info -> Resource kind: E-mail: OpenPGP public key~~
- This item is placed next to "E-mail" but it doesn't display next to "E-mail" in the drop down menu in "Edit with form -> Resource kind" drop down menu.

autoedit

We can use the autoedit links for things like allow admins to do things like confirm that they have reviewed an entry or as a way for "voting-up" etc. Or any number of things. See autoedit section at bottom of Semantic Forms page.

proprietary-program-search

When a person searches for a proprietary program, a list of free software replacements for that program should appear in the search results, *however*, the proprietary program and its name should not appear anywhere on the wiki. To achieve this functionality, we may want to use the ~~Enhanced Retrieval extension~~ (obsolete).

License-verification

Licenses and license notifications should preferably be verified by a license compliance software system (like FOSSology).

When doing license verification by hand, we need to ensure two things:

More than one person checks a license;
We have a system in place for training volunteers (via some sort of mentorship) on how to properly check a project's license.

I fully agree and I believe all should be bounded by well defined rules.
Having such systems and workflows in place is fundamental. If necessary, I am also willing to mentor during meetings. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2020 (EST)

Point-system-and-mentoring

Some ideas we have discussed is that we might have some sort of scoring system, so that more experienced individuals who check a license have more "points" than people less experienced. Let's say we have three tiers: level-1, level-2, level-3; with level-1 being the most experienced. A check by a level-1 person might be worth 15 points, a level-2 might be worth 10 points, and a check by a level-3 person might be worth 5 points. It might be that a license is properly "checked" if it has a score of at least 25 points. To coordinate this work we might consider using an extension such as Semantic Tasks. But, more important than the point system is ensuring that level-3 individuals are not only verified by level-1 individuals, but, that some 1-on-1 guidance and help/mentoring is provided to level-3 individuals from level-1 individuals.

FSF

Some work, like modifying the source files of MediaWiki, cannot be done by MediaWiki users themselves. We gather such tasks here so the FSF staff can help us fix them.

Internationalization-and-localization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory is available in these languages at this writing:

Español
Français
Italiano
Nederlands
日本語
Русский
中文

We need to enable internationalization and localization in our MediaWiki instance so volunteers easily can add new translated pages. For example Collection:IOS (4 languages) and Collection:Windows (3 languages) need the translation links in the sidebar.

job-queue

Job queue length

Semantic Mediawiki jobs: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:UpdateJob
Rebuilding Semantic Mediawiki data by hand: https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Maintenance_script_rebuildData.php
jobs value from the API call: https://directory.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics
On dev there is an alias

alias wikijobs='curl -s '\''https://directory2p.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics&format=json'\'' | jq -r .query.statistics.jobs'

Full rebuild of Semantic Mediawiki data took over 14 hours, after that there were 0 jobs in the queue

437206 IDs refreshed.

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icecataddons

List incomplete IceCat add-ons. Free Software Directory:IceCat extensions (proposed)/FSD bugs issue 1

elic342

Entries with empty Licence fields should not be able to approve. It should only be possible to approve entries with filled License fields. This policy must include the automatic approval when pages are save.

Also add “required” text for License. For Create, when a user try to save the page with Homepage not filled out the text There were errors with your form input; see below. will appear on the Save tab. On the General info tab the text Homepage URL (required) cannot be blank text will appear. However, there are no text that says that License fields must be filled if they are not.

For the first case (existing entries with License field blank when edited with form), these entries do still have their old property value. This is due to the fact that such entries weren't updated after Update-the-license-field was solved. However, when viewing such entries, the information is displayed as expected. With this in mind, one can keep both an editing and a viewing tab open to ease the process of recollecting the old license to match the new one. Finally, provided no other change to page listing on License namespace is made, future revisions of an existing entry and also new entries should display the information fine both on the form and on the view page. --Adfeno (talk) 17:54, 18 December 2020 (EST)

icecatun

List unapproved IceCat add-ons. We could reuse the source of https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special:ApprovedRevs&show=unapproved so we can tweak to show only unapproved IceCat add-ons.

Multiple-software-categories--temporarily-fixed-

Not only are the text merged but also the URL in the link. For IceCat: <a href="/wiki?title=Category/Programming-language/C_C%2B%2B_javascript_rust&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category/Programming-language/C C++ javascript rust (page does not exist)">Programming-language:C C++ javascript rust</a>

(analysis) This issue occurs when multiple items in one software category are selected in the form. The property value seems to contain space-separated values. But {{Print software category}} seems to use #arraymap with a separator , to split values.
Using a space to separate multiple values in set/subobject from SMW website cmay or may not be helpful

Log

Attempt to force valuesep to comma so that software categories are displayed correctly: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Template:Show&oldid=48988 --Adfeno (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2018 (EST)
- This seems to solve the issue, I visited IceCat. Mingw-w64 and GCC, and all seems to be working well. This is of course an ugly workaround, because I have choosen not to do a mass replace of the already existing categories separated by commas (because I think it would be resource expensive). Imagine, using Special:RepplaceText, in almost 10,000 pages. I prefer to leave this mass replace to the real admins, if they feel confident enough so as to remove my valuesep setting. --Adfeno (talk) 21:47, 27 January 2018 (EST)
  - This workaround is needed because since SMW 2.5.3, in the template result format, the default for valuesep is changed from space to comma, however we are using SMW 2.5.1, so the default us is currently space. The mass replace is not required if we manage to upgrade to 2.5.3. --Adfeno (talk) 08:24, 28 January 2018 (EST)
It didn't help to edit {{Print_software_category}} and replace comma with &#32 in {{#if:{{{15|}}}|{{#arraymap:{{{15}}}|,|xvarx|<li>[[Category/Interface/xvarx{{!}}Interface:xvarx]]</li>|}}|<nowiki/>}}, see https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Template:Print_software_category&diff=48880&oldid=48746

Remove-duplicated-entries-A

Duplication of entries in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:ApprovedRevs. 1) https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special:ApprovedRevs&action=purge reads "Pages whose approved revision is not their latest" -- the text doesn't use the word "revisions". 2)The "(diff from latest)" links are identical for each entry instead of pointing to unique revisions.

Some entries has duplications of "Extension or Plugin". For example, https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus has 3 Iridium entries listed.
This was asked to sysadmin@fsf.org over one year ago:

262dup

The value of |Extension of= is displayed twice in some entries (one year ago perhaps 5 duplicated were displayed but John Sullivan and/or Joshua Gay managed to fix most of the duplicates either by himself or someone else). For example, "Add to Search Bar" appear twice there, but "Aardvark" appear only once.

The duplicates also affect lists that the entries are in, see this page for test purpose that I've set up: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/IceCat

       > I contacted Joshua in March this year about this and he responded.

       > "I will look into this. I am not sure why the redirects are making it
       > show-up twice. It shouldn't. However fixing it is not a simple matter of
       > removing them -- it is a bug in the software."

    Please report the bug to sysadmin@gnu.org.

    --
    Dr Richard Stallman
    President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
    Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
    Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.

Remove-duplicated-short-description-rs

sysadmin@gnu.org ticket: [gnu.org #1205033]

Short description now appear automatically on software entry pages.

We had to copy the short description into the full description before thus creating duplicated text. The job to do now is to remove those duplicates. I added this to the Backlog.

Faceted-search

Make an advanced search page used to filter out entries based on their SMW data.

Examples of filters:

Is GNU
Accepts cryptocurrency donation
User level
Categories...

There is already a page for that, Special:Ask. Unless you provide more details and examples on how this request could be different from what is already there, I consider this a wontfix. --Adfeno (talk) 17:59, 18 December 2020 (EST)

wiki-special-pages

Broken pages in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages :

Maintenance reports

Broken redirects
Dead-end pages
Double redirects
Oldest pages
Orphaned pages
Pages with the fewest revisions
Pages without language links
Protected titles -- doesn't work despite that Protected pages list pages
Uncategorized categories
Uncategorized files
Uncategorized pages
Uncategorized templates
Unused categories
Unused files
Unused templates
Unwatched pages
Wanted categories
Wanted files
Wanted pages
Wanted templates

Lists of pages

List of redirects

Media reports and uploads

List of files with duplicates
MIME search -- "This special page is disabled for performance reasons."
Media statistics

High use pages

Most linked-to files
Most linked-to pages
Most transcluded pages
Pages with the most categories
Pages with the most interwikis
Pages with the most revisions

Page tools

Get data -- Blank page, suggested solution: Special:GetData: Display a message by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T201660

Extension-Approved-Revs

Some pages show up in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special:ApprovedRevs&limit=500&offset=0&show=invalid. It's not possible to approve or unapprove the Collection namespace. I was told it could be solved by playing with $egApprovedRevsNamespaces in LocalSettings.php.

Approved pages (and their redirects) becomes unapproved when they are Moved.
On the entry pages, there is a bug where if a page has had at least one approval and a non-admin edits it, the entry page shows the latest edit instead of the last approved revision.

Extension-UserFunctions

All the bureaucrats represents their user access level on their user page with static text. Example for User:Donaldr3:

My name is Donald Robertson and I am an administrator and bureaucrat of the Free Software Directory.

The problem with that method is that each time the user access level changes the text has should be updated, for example when someone from the FSF gets retired. But this typically doesn't happen because it's inconvenient.

With https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions we can use this on the user pages for administrators and bureaucrats so they can represent their user access level on their user page dynamically. We can add this to a template that we add to the top of the users pages for example:

My name is {{#realname:alt}} and I am an {{#ifingroup:bureaucrat| [https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special%3AListUsers&username={{#username:alt}}&group=bureaucrat&limit=1 administrator and bureaucrat] |}} {{#ifingroup:administrator| [https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special%3AListUsers&username={{#username:alt}}&group=bureaucrat&limit=1 administrator] |}} of the Free Software Directory.

There is also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RightFunctions.

Performance-tuning

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Performance_tuning

A lot of contributors have complained that the FSD has been slow in the past years. The most damaging aspect with this is that we are loosing contributors. It must with other words be fixed if we want more contributors -- something that has been suggested as being one of the most important thing with the project at all.

Ask FSF admins to provide an exact copy of the environment (database + software) so that can be reproduced locally and properly troubleshoot.
Switching to PHP 7 might help a bit but I think we have a problem with writing data to Semantic MediaWiki, this might me an issue with forms.
~~Install memcached~~, or find some other way to improve performance of the site. We already have Zend OPcache, for opcache, and APCu, for data store, installed and enabled. Memcached is like APCu, but slower.

wiki-Session-data

Disclaimer: Andrew was said that this is most likely not an issue with the programs that hosts the Directory. -- 2018-05-17

It may take a minute to move a page. Also, I get this message after ~1 minute (should be at least 5 minutes) of inactive form editing:

Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.

You might have been logged out. Please verify that you're still logged in and try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in, and check that your browser allows cookies from this site.

One must note that this expiration is common practice in order to avoid fake authentication attacks. We must instead take the message at face value and think: "What can cause someone to stay various minutes editing a page? And how can we segment the edit so that this doesn't happen?"

Steps to reproduce:

Click on the edit link of a page (or even the "edit with form" link).
Do some edit but don't submit.
Wait at least 10min without visiting nor browsing any page related to both the FSD and the FSF (because these are linked by a CAS, central authentication server/service).
Submit the edit.
- The message appears. From this point on, if you try to submit again, the data is sent as expected.

Import-templates

Import https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ref from Wikipedia so we can use <ref>Reference goes here</ref></nowiki?</code>. This is perhaps the single most important Template to import. To <code><nowiki><ref>...</ref> should work provided <references/> is included on the page, since this is a part of a Extension:Cite extension which needs to be installed.
Import https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Reply_to -- it's a pain to use the Talk pages every time, especially to communicate on pages like this Backlog.
Import https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mbox

Templates-to-display-EST-or-EDT

Export https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Template:Current_daylight_saving_offset_in_North_America (or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Daylight_saving_in_time_zone) and import it to the Directory.
Modify {{Current_daylight_saving_offset_in_North_America}} (or {{Daylight_saving_in_time_zone}}) to display "EST" and "EDT" instead of "0" and "1" respectively.
Add message "Join us 12:00-15:00 {{Daylight saving in time zone}}" Workaround: No template works if copy/pasted directly from Wikipedia, not even those which print the current time zone offset in North America, either they require a setting to be passed, or they simply fail to find some string. Fortunately we managed to make Template:TZAbbrev which also has a default value that allows easily spotting for problems, besides accepting an optional parameter for testing, the documentation is in the template's page.

GNU-links-License-not-in-SPDX

GNU website links to License namespace pages that are not identified according to SPDX.

I'm not saying that we should fix all of those, since SPDX might not have all licenses. Besides, I already took care to discard public domain. This is visible at least on https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html, which links to the following pages --Adfeno (talk) 19:30, 18 December 2020 (EST)

Tricky, since GNU website mentions it as a umbrella for all 1.x versions.

License:X11 is X11, while Expat is MIT.

misc-issues

* Deletion options (eg https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=FOO&action=delete)

- Reason: "Duplicated entry"
- A lot of entries has been submitted that don't run in GNU systems, something required by our policy. Add reason: "Doesn't run on GNU systems"
Namespaces we need
- Draft: Example, move https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Antifeatures/Draft to https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Draft:Free_Software_Directory:Antifeatures
- Portals: Wikipedia has Portals, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Free_software and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Java. Should we start Portal:IceCat?
Create cron job to update CSV output page of GNU all projects
Footer: The link https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/directory/fdl-1.3-standalone.html appears three times in the footer template, two of them are redundant. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_footer.3F for how to modify the footer template.
Invalid HTML: The IceCat entry in the FSD is not valid, 28 errors: https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fdirectory.fsf.org%2Fwiki%2FIceCat&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
Actions take a long time to complete: The Move (More -> Move) page loads for perhaps a minute when I hit the "Move page" button despite that the page has been moved. Same issue when you create new pages.
Upload SVG files: We want to upload SVG files but Special:Upload says: "Permitted file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, webp."
OpenSearch installation error: Free Software Directory search can be installed from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fsf-directory/?src=ss but not from Free Software Directory search (I approved this entry for this test purposes only). --David Hedlund (talk) 23:56, 16 April 2015 (EDT)

wgAllowUserJs

Personal JavaScripts are only available if $wgAllowUserJs is set to true. - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript#Personal_scripts. wgAllowUserJs are set to true at wikipedia.org but not at directory.fsf.org (see policy).

I cannot use the tool mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Hedonil/XTools/XTools.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); in my User:David_Hedlund/common.js.

Hotcat is also pretty interesting:

This code is MW version safe. It should run on any MediaWiki installation >= MW 1.15. Note that HotCat is supposed to run with or without jQuery, and also on older installations that do not yet have window.mw.

- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js

Change-unapproved-revs-to-category

Right now we have an issue where packages that aren't quite ready to be added to the Directory languish in unapproved revs. The packages don't need review; they need ongoing help to fix freedom issues. We want to keep these pages not listed in the Directory, but move them to like an Archive listing, where people can continue to file bugs and work with maintainers to fix the problems. But we want to get them out of unapprovedrevs, which is our listing for newly added packages that haven't been approved. mutante, a wikimedia amin, suggested that we just use categories rather than a special page. We can set the category automatically when people create the page, but then will later be able to change the category to either approved or archive as needed. This would also make it easier to take something down without deleting it, if freedom issues arise.

Suggested solution: I think SMW can evaluate unapproved/uncategorized entries. However, https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages (and other #Special pages) are empty. --David Hedlund (talk) 15:39, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

Add-the-new-Group-namespace

I suggest a new name space "Group".

Move all pages in Free Software Directory:Participate/Project Team to the Group name space.
Move Free Software Directory:Participate/Project Team to Free Software Directory:Participate/Groups.

I consider this a wontfix since moving and making namespaces is expensive, the wiki administrators themselves must deal and better organize the structure they already have in meaningful ways, for example, avoid inserting a collection as a project team, since the goal of the collection page is to point to “curated” list of software for a specific purpose, not to give information of a said group that edits that page. --Adfeno (talk) 18:08, 18 December 2020 (EST)

W3M-and-text-based-browser-are-hard-to-use-forms

report from mailing list:

I just managed to submit an entry for my "dtas" software, but it was a bit painful since https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Form:Entry leads to a "loading..." page which requires JavaScript.

He noticed that the javascript was trying to load a specific page, so he loaded it himself (directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:FormEdit/Entry/dtas)

and was able to edit the form.

Category-Candidates-for-deletion

Donald pointed out that https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion lists pages that don't include the Category:Candidates_for_deletion tag:

Category/Business/pim
Category/Editor
Category/Localization
Category/Localization/language-adaptations
Category/Text-creation
Category/Use/organizing
Category/Works-with/pim
Category/Works-with/text

Upgrade-history

It seems unprobable that the Semantic MediaWiki issues appeared on their own, most probably MediaWiki extensions got updated and some things do no longer work as before. Would be good to know the history of upgrades to identify changes that has been made and how they have affected this wiki. « Saper // @talk » 10:58, 27 January 2018 (EST)

Promote-online-services

I've observed that currently one of the major issues in libre community is that end-users are unaware of libre alternatives to online services which forces the end-users to rely on Internet services where the common practice seems to be libre service providers doing self-promotions by upstream and it's users e.g. Example: https://github.com/PhoenicisOrg/phoenicis/pull/1917.

Common real-life example based on my experience would be end-user using Internet service like GitHub to host their code without being aware of services like gitea and it's providing networks which these users then migrate within a month after a discovery which was also how it happened in my case.

I believe that by promoting these services we can either solve this presented issue or contribute to it's solution. --Kreyren (talk) 21:05, 20 November 2020 (CET)

Logos

* Why don't we use .svg files over .png files?

namimg

* Naming policy. Shouldn't .png files generated from .svg files be named with the .svg.png to indicate that (example.svg.png)? This is what Wikipedia does: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Heckert_GNU_white.svg/150px-Heckert_GNU_white.svg.png

IceCatMeeting

I'd like to have a IRC meetings with Ruben at least a few times per year. Suggested plan: 1 hour every 3rd month.

Backlog-Admin-Group--BAG--and-FSF-Tech-Team

I suggest a voice conference between the BAG and the FSF. Suggested plan: 1 hour every 3rd month.

Mozilla-and-FSD-joint-project

Mozilla closes to many relevant issues:

Apache License, version 2.0 is not on the add-on license list - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8545
API: Please adopt SPDX - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8706
Allow GNU [L]GPL x.x or later - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8707
The API `name` parameter makes bad MediaWiki URL's - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8790
Make a drop-down menu with all SPDX licenses - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8866
Cannot list collections in desired formats - https://github.com/mozilla/addons/issues/722
API: Add "last_license" to the search pages - https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8945

Solution: I think the FSF should help the Project Team for IceCat WebExtension to have IRC meetings with Mozilla. Suggested plan: 1 hour every 3rd month.

Blog-template

Disclaimer: This has been implemented since "No Friday Free Software Directory IRC meetup on Friday July 20th" in https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory. Check a few more blogs to make sure it's well implemented.

Sent to donald@fsf.org

What do you think about this?: Move the paragraph with unique text to
the top of the body text and add the remaining text under a section
called "About the Free Software Directory". Example for
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/friday-free-software-directory-irc-meetup-time-june-22nd-starting-at-12-00-p-m-edt-16-00-utc-1

##############################

Current version

Join the FSF and friends Friday, June 22nd, from 12:00 p.m. to 3 p.m.
EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory
this week by helping to promote it.

Help improve the Free Software Directory by adding new entries and
updating existing ones. Every Friday we meet on IRC in the #fsf channel
on irc.freenode.org.

Tens of thousands of people visit directory.fsf.org each month to
discover free software. Each entry in the Directory contains a wealth of
useful information, from basic category and descriptions, to providing
detailed info about version control, IRC channels, documentation, and
licensing info that has been carefully checked by FSF staff and trained
volunteers.

When a user comes to the Directory, they know that everything in it is
free software, has only free dependencies, and runs on a free OS. With
over 16,000 entries, it is a massive repository of information about
free software.

While the Directory has been and continues to be a great resource to the
world for many years now, it has the potential to be a resource of even
greater value. But it needs your help! And since it's a MediaWiki
instance, it's easy for anyone to edit and contribute to the Directory.

A few weeks back we launched a new Project Team to create a logo that
packages can use to show off that they are included in the Directory.
But at this time, we still haven't found a team captain for the project.
This project could really help promote the Directory, as well as helping
packages to demonstrate that they care about software freedom. This
week, we'll be working to recruit a team captain, as well as trying to
get the project off the ground.

If you are eager to help, and you can't wait or are simply unable to
make it onto IRC on Friday, our participation guide will provide you
with all the information you need to get started on helping the
Directory today! There are also weekly Directory Meeting pages that
everyone is welcome to contribute to before, during, and after each
meeting. To see the meeting start time in your time zone, run this in
GNU bash: date --date='TZ="America/New_York" 12:00 this Fri'

##############################

Proposed template.

Join the FSF and friends Friday, June 22nd, from 12:00 p.m. to 3 p.m.
EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory
this week by helping to promote it.

[About the Free Software Directory]

Help improve the Free Software Directory by adding new entries and
updating existing ones. Every Friday we meet on IRC in the #fsf channel
on irc.freenode.org.

GPL

https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8707 -- Mozilla (and perhaps most other developers) don't avoid the term "GNU General Public License, version 2.0" (or "GNU General Public License, version 3.0") as Ian pointed out later in that issue (https://github.com/mozilla/addons-server/issues/8707#issuecomment-401471396). Is the plan to split the license into two different licenses to avoid this issue completely: "GNU General Public License, version 4.0 only", "GNU General Public License, version 4.0 or later"? Donald: "only" and "or later" are handled in license notices

New-Antifeature

I want to add "officeonlinesystems PDF editor online" (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/editor-pdf-online/) to the Antifeature as an example for one of the following

please read about the program and tell me which section that match best.

CASAuth

* Maintanance -- CASAuth is not maintained any more and FSF are welcome to take over the project

Feature request: MediaWiki API integration
- Pywikibot

reventry

Revision entry on plain oldiff page displays "$7":

The bug can be seen in the revision summary next to the page title. Go to the history of a page, and click on any of the links that are in the dates (example "15:14, 27 January 2018‎").

This applies to the

main namespace, example [1]: Revision as of 17:08, 25 November 2016 by David Hedlund (talk

Client-side

The programs listed here has bugs that affect compatibility when you browse this website:

LibreJS
- Bug report LibreJS below version 7.0 (the WebExtension) inserts unwanted blank lines in text fields
- directory.fsf.org compatibility issue: You cannot edit the Directory with LibreJS
- Solution: Disable LibreJS when you edit https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/
Lynx
- Bug report: Table column rendering needs more spacing or a better separator
- directory.fsf.org compatibility issue: mediawiki tables in the Windows page for example are not displayed correctly.
  - Disclaimer: https://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html is not better displayed https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Windows in Lynx 2.8.9dev.16 from GNU Guix in Trisquel 7
- Solution: Use another text-based web browser.

JavaScript-errors

InvalidAccessError: A parameter or an operation is not supported by the underlying object ext.headertabs.core.js:41

TypeError: ss.rules is undefined[Learn More] wiki:477:35
might be mediawiki issue
TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More] ext.pf.select2.combobox.js:35:23
TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More] ext.pf.select2.tokens.js:36:21
initFunction is not a function $.fn.PageForms_registerInputInit

jQuery.Deferred exception: initFunction is not a function $.fn.PageForms_registerInputInit/<@https://directory.fsf.org/w/extensions/PageForms/libs/PageForms.js?0b6cb:330:17
resolve/</mightThrow@https://directory.fsf.org/w/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0hndq7l:3583:21
resolve/</process<@https://directory.fsf.org/w/load.php?debug=true&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=0hndq7l:3651:12

URL: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Sandbox&action=formedit&debug=true#tab=3__Licenses

Related to date picker initialization in input_23

Server-side-issues-for-Outreachy

These are some of the tasks that will be worked on by Outreachy interns during summer 2018

Improve responsiveness for mobile devices
Sync Debian package info into the directory

HTML-Logos

Donald suggested logos in different sizes with HTML caption "Listed in the Free Software Directory". "something that packages could put on their website to show that they are free software and included in the directory". See these logos for example:

https://www.gnu.org/graphics/license-logos.html -- for inspiration of logos in different sizes. It would be good if the image had the same sizes as these logos since some developers use them and can put the new logo next to them on their website.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FSF-Logo_part.svg
https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/ryf/RYF-with-fill.svg, https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/ryf/RYF-with-fill.png

"The Free Software Directory (FSD, or simply Directory) is a project of..." - https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

Proposed text on the logo

"Free Software Directory"
"Directory"
"FSD" -- But FSD can also mean "Free Software Definition", a term used at https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
- I added "FSD" - https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Template:About_text&diff=37857&oldid=37762 -- should I remove it? --David Hedlund (talk) 07:00, 9 July 2018 (EDT)

Upload-form-not-working

The form for uploading screenshots to be displayed in the form does not work. As a user I receive this error and I cannot upload new screenshots. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 13:00, 23 November 2018 (EST)

Wikilinks-in-Software-Prerequisites-not-working

The insertion of links in some parts of the template does not work, for example:

{{Software prerequisite
|Prerequisite kind=Required to use
|Prerequisite description=[[Termenu]]
}}

The link [[Termenu]] will be filtered and transformed to simple text.

The consequence is that it is not possible to link the prerequisites to other pages of the FSD. Being able to do it would give us enormous advantages as the pages would be better indexed by search engines and users could find new useful software starting from the dependencies of those already visited. --LorenzoAncora (talk) 12:58, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Obsolete-categories

During the latest FSF IRC meeting, users and administrators reported that the categories listed in Free_Software_Directory:Workflow#Bugs_and_suggestions appear to be unused.

Mr. Hedlund is currently maintaining the new service page Free_Software_Directory:Buggy_entries and users have easy access to the #fsf IRC channel by using web chats.

Question: should we maintain these old categories or should we transit completely to these new methods? --LorenzoAncora (talk) 15:30, 25 January 2019 (EST)

pending-entries

On 6 Dec 2020, Lorenzo pointed out an issue that unapproved and pending entries for the FSD could be construed as free software when they may or may not be free. Cyberduck_CLI was used as the example. After some discussion, key elements of the solution were obvious.

Any pending entry is CLEARLY marked (I say absurdly marked), that it is currently under review for inclusion in the FSD and we have not concluded that it is fully free software. If there is a way to change the color of a pending entry, that would be cool.
Control how and when nonfree entries show up in the FSD search and other web search engines. I think the default is to exclude as much as possible, but there may be unexplored advantages to include them in various search results. One undesired example being that if a user just searches for something, sees the search results include it as being on the free software Directory, they might assume the work is free without visiting the page.
One example: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Cyberduck_CLI&oldid=82006, we could maybe mitigate old unapproved revisions with something like User-agent: * Disallow: /wiki*oldid=*$
I do not know of a way to completely automatically add unapproved entries to the robots file (and remove them once approved). There might be a way to completely do this using the API, some programming, and cron jobs. The robots approach also assumes that the scraper is following the restrictions in robots file which we know from logs and sysadmin emergencies is not always the case.
We should consider adding `__NOINDEX__` to the unapproved message text.
I think I most of these search engine issues moving forward by making a robots.txt file (we did not have one) and taking a snippet from wikipedia and the mediawiki doc. https://directory.fsf.org/robots.txt, https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt, https://www.mediawiki.org, wiki/Manual:Robots.txt
Pending entries should have an educational component that allows visitors to learn more about the status of the entry. Talk: pages should work for this.
Reviewing an entry is optimally done in private, similar to our compliance guidelines. However, for this to be useful, we have to list nonfree programs so staff and volunteers don't repeatedly review the same program over and over again. The presentation of pending entries should not reflect badly on a program, but this may be tricky to do. suggestions? --Craigt (talk) 15:30, 18 December 2020 (EST)

The bold mark on pages without approved revisions was a direct request by RMS, motivated by practical reasons. I think we can improve its appearance by reducing its size and using gray in place of black, but changing the color scheme of the unapproved revisions might compromise accessibility; the robots.txt solution won't work, because the Robots Exclusion Standard doesn't support regular expressions and globbing: __NOINDEX__ should be the most appropriate solution; software Talk pages are already used to start the revision processes and to add administrative notifications, but I could attach an extra documentation link to unapproved entries, using JavaScript; I think it is sufficient that the warning shown on unapproved pages maintains a purely technical connotation. --LorenzoAncora (talk)

It was recomended by adfeno to make use of the Template:AttentionBox to increase visibility of an entry's status. --Craigt (talk) 13:32, 24 December 2020 (EST)

I don't think this is a good solution, for two reasons: the use of templates does not natively integrate with JavaScript or CSS and therefore would require manual changes to the code of the extension included in the instance, changes that would be difficult to maintain in the long term (also, using XHRs to download the template would degrade the loading performance); a big message saying "Warning!" violates the prerequisite of this Issue (The presentation of pending entries should not reflect badly on a program). I suggest to add a message like This page revision is not approved and may not represent free software. Please browse the latest revision. at the bottom of all old page revisions. I've produced a preview. My mantra is: let's preserve the existing UX as much as possible, adding changes gradually and unobtrusively. ;-) --LorenzoAncora (talk) 07:06, 26 December 2020 (EST)

It was suggested by ggoes, "I think "is free software" would be clearer than "represents free software" Represents makes me think of some kind of spokesman thing. --Craigt (talk) 13:32, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Ok, the message can be edited without any problems, but we must all agree in order to minimize changes over time. The main problem is that all pages are subject to review and approval, so saying is free software might not be always correct in each context. I think that if the current message is too formal, we can replace represents with contains or links to and its truthfulness wouldn't be reduced. Additionally, we might even think about centring the message on the page if it's not yet prominent enough. I've produced a preview of both changes. 🎅 --LorenzoAncora (talk) 07:06, 26 December 2020 (EST)

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@@ Line 15: / Line 15: @@
 Append the new bugs you find in the FSD to this page.<br>Remember to '''follow the [[FSD:Participate|participation guide]] and sign your contribution'''. Thank you!
+The bugs are archived after at least one week from their resolution or if the bug cannot be identified due to lack of information.
 <!-- DO NOT EDIT -->
 <!-- APPEND TO THE END OF THE PAGE -->
-==General issues==
+== Uncategorized ==
-===GNU packages===
+{{BacklogIssue|id=Add GNU promoted text to GNU entries automatically|stalledBy=Add-GNU-promoted-text-to-GNU-entries-automatically|text=
-{{BacklogIssue|id=Add GNU promoted text to GNU entries automatically|text=
 This text is included in all [[GNU]] entries:
 <pre>
@@ Line 43: / Line 43: @@
 I think we should:
-# Remove the above text from all entries listed in [[GNU]]
+# <s>Remove the above text from all entries listed in [[GNU]]</s>
-# Place the above text in a template, say Template:GNU_promotions
+# <s>Place the above text in a template, say Template:GNU_promotions</s>
 # Convert this texted idea to SMW code: if "Is GNU=Yes" then use Template:GNU_promotions"
 # Add the code to https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Template:Show or some other link found at https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Backlog_Admin_Group#How_to_modify_the_form_edit
 }}
+: 1. Is now solved (sysadmin: please execute <code>runjobs.php</code> when appropriate to apply the substitutions and allow for further development of this Backlog Task). --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 14:07, 4 December 2020 (EST)
+: 2. Is now solved (see [[Template:GNU_promotions]]). --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 13:08, 4 December 2020 (EST)
+: 3. Stalled by pt. 1.
-=== Uncategorized ===
+{{BacklogIssue|id=SPDX-related issues|stalledBy=#1520, #Replace-License-text-in-program-entries|text=
-{{BacklogIssue|id=SPDX-related issues|stalledBy=#1520, #Replace-License-text-in-program-entries, #Development-testing, #Update-the-license-field|text=
 See the [https://spdx.org/licenses/ SPDX License List] for license identifiers.
@@ Line 67: / Line 69: @@
 {{BacklogIssue|id=1520|text=Make comments in License namespace point to license evaluation page of GNU project if they exist there. This should also add the benefit of having that page translated to the contributor or visitor/guest's language.}}
 : Is there a way for us to HTTP ping those without using JavaScript?<br/>I think we'll need to add a dedicated script. --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 15:26, 24 April 2020 (EDT)
-{{BacklogIssue|id=1521|text=When people set the license for a project to be "GPL 2 or higher", it gets added to the autocompletion list for that field, even though that license isn't on the approved list at: [[:Property:License]]. ("GPL 2 or higher" isn't on the list because it is misformatted. The correct entry is "GPLv2orlater".)}}
 {{BacklogIssue|id=Replace License text in program entries|text=
@@ Line 100: / Line 100: @@
 </pre>
 }}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=Development testing|text=
-Tried to reset the license list on a dev server so we can rebuild it from scratch.
-* I changed "input type=combobox" to "input type=dropdown" in https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki/Form:Entry. However, some licenses starts with "License:" so:
-* I removed all license entries from https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki?title=Property:License&diff=prev&oldid=72725
-<pre>
-https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki?title=Property:License&diff=prev&oldid=72725
-has caused at lest 12135 jobs to be generated (maybe ca. 300 has been processed).
-Cron will deal with it within 121 hours, or it is possible to run
-"runjobs 10000" to run, say, 10000 jobs in one go (this does not
-conflict with cron).
-Basically it seems that we should be prepared to handle ca. 15000 jobs
-quickly. Maybe the system can be tuned to do that in a reasonable timeframe.
-It mostly depends on the MySQL database server.
-One can check the amount of jobs left by running "wikijobs" (it is cached but for not very long).
-Marcin
-</pre>
-I deleted all licenses in https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki/Property:License two days ago and there are no jobs left (https://directory2p.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics).
-Some unexpected licenses, for example "BSD"
-* It's still listed under "License and version", see https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki?title=Sandbox&action=formedit&debug=true#tab=3__Licenses
-* "No pages were found containing the string "|License=BSD$"." in https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki/Special:ReplaceText
-* "Showing 497 pages using this property." https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Property:License&limit=500&offset=0&value=&from=&until=
-}}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=Update the license field|stalledBy=#Replace-License-text-in-program-entries|text=
-Semantic MediaWiki issue:
-I've updated https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Property:License but https://directory.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=pfautocomplete&format=json&property=License&substr=MPL doesn't show the update. Same issue with the old server http://directory-dev.fsf.org/wiki/Property:License and http://directory-dev.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=pfautocomplete&format=json&property=License&substr=Foo
-<div style="overflow-y:scroll;height:200px;">
-<pre>
--08-08
-(19:29:54) David_Hedlund: I've removed MPL1.1 (replaced by MPL-1.1), and MPLv2.0 (replaced by MPL-2.0) in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Property:License, but the "License and version:" drop down menu in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Sandbox&action=formedit&debug=true#tab=3__Licenses remain unchanged: Search for "MPL" in it and you'll find only "MPL1.1" and "MPLv2.0". I have clicked on More -> Refresh to purge the cache but it didn't help. Do you know how I can update the list?
-Same with non-existing pages, example: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Sandbox6&action=formedit&debug=true#tab=3__Licenses
-saper helped a lot on this issue.
-Andrew said that it hopefully get fixed after they have solved `[directory] stale results from API call - https://rt.gnu.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1314342`
-(21:37:23) saper: David_Hedlund: https://directory.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics "jobs": 16181
-(21:40:33) sudoman: i'm running them in batches of 200
--08-09
-Hello David,
-The job queue is currently at about 11 or 12 jobs, but it looks like the
-changes for MPL licenses did not go through. i tried editing and saving
-one of the MPL license pages and editing and saving template:license,
-but this did not update those pages.
-i'll look into this some more, but if you can find any hints about this,
-that would be very helpful, but is not required. I suspect that it's an
-issue with semantic mediawiki. perhaps it doesn't handle page renames
-properly via the template:license code.
-Thanks,
-Andrew
-(17:00:55) sudoman: David_Hedlund: i sent you an email about the directory.fsf.org job queue. it's currently at about 11 or 12 jobs, but it looks like the license names didn't get updated. i suspect that this is an issue with semantic mediawiki not properly handling page renames.
-(18:37:01) David_Hedlund: sudoman: 1 job left!
-(23:03:22) David_Hedlund: sudoman: "jobs": 877 - https://directory.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=statistics -- I assume all old jobs are solved.
-(23:07:05) David_Hedlund: sudoman: Is this ticket solved? [directory] stale results from API call - https://rt.gnu.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1314342
-(23:07:46) sudoman: David_Hedlund: it's not resolve yet...
-(23:58:22) David_Hedlund: sudoman: Checking `'''License and version:''' {{{field|License|input type=combobox|values from property=License}}}` in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Form:Entry
-(23:59:19) David_Hedlund: It's used by https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Template:Project_license
-</pre>
-After a full rebuild of SMW data with a command:
-<pre>
-flock -w 1 /var/run/apache2/SMW.flock php /var/www/w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php -v  --report-runtime
-</pre>
-that took over 14 hours:
-<pre>
-IDs refreshed.
-Memory used: 180260544 (b: 13003608, a: 193264152) with a runtime of 53171.62 sec (886.19 min)
-</pre>
-https://directory2p.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=pfautocomplete&format=json&property=License&substr=MPL returns only "MPL", so looks like the old entries
-are gone.
-;Adding MPLx for testing:
-* [https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki?title=Property:License&diff=72708&oldid=72702 added MPLx]
-* After that change there are 15459 jobs in the queue (previously zero).
-* Started <code>flock -w 1 /var/run/apache2/SMW.flock php /var/www/w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/rebuildData.php -v  --report-runtime</code> again. It seems there not so many stale data, so it seems to be faster.
-;MPLx assigned to [[Sandbox]]
-* Changed license to [https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki?title=Sandbox&diff=72711&oldid=71795 MPLx]
-* 5 jobs generated in the queue:
-<pre>
--08-13T09:15:01-04:00 started 2018-08-13T09:15:01-04:00
--08-13 13:15:02 htmlCacheUpdate Sandbox table=templatelinks recursive=1 rootJobIsSelf=1 rootJobSignature=0f9daa65837ad83184ef098150a8a3801a659bd6 rootJobTimestamp=20180813131439 causeAction=page-edit causeAgent=unknown requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482276,timestamp=20180813131442) STARTING
--08-13 13:15:02 htmlCacheUpdate Sandbox table=templatelinks recursive=1 rootJobIsSelf=1 rootJobSignature=0f9daa65837ad83184ef098150a8a3801a659bd6 rootJobTimestamp=20180813131439 causeAction=page-edit causeAgent=unknown requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482276,timestamp=20180813131442) t=19 good
--08-13 13:15:02 enotifNotify Sandbox editor=Saper editorID=1696 timestamp=20180813131435 summary=license: MPLx for testing minorEdit=0 oldid=71795 watchers=[1501] pageStatus=changed requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482279,timestamp=20180813131443) STARTING
--08-13 13:15:02 enotifNotify Sandbox editor=Saper editorID=1696 timestamp=20180813131435 summary=license: MPLx for testing minorEdit=0 oldid=71795 watchers=[1501] pageStatus=changed requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482279,timestamp=20180813131443) t=15 good
--08-13 13:15:02 htmlCacheUpdate Sandbox table=redirect recursive=1 rootJobIsSelf=1 rootJobSignature=071d8bc99773d0c00cc4579b6b049e7c20840e82 rootJobTimestamp=20180813131439 causeAction=page-edit causeAgent=unknown requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482277,timestamp=20180813131442) STARTING
--08-13 13:15:02 htmlCacheUpdate Sandbox table=redirect recursive=1 rootJobIsSelf=1 rootJobSignature=071d8bc99773d0c00cc4579b6b049e7c20840e82 rootJobTimestamp=20180813131439 causeAction=page-edit causeAgent=unknown requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482277,timestamp=20180813131442) t=8 good
--08-13 13:15:02 recentChangesUpdate Special:RecentChanges type=cacheUpdate requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482278,timestamp=20180813131442) STARTING
--08-13 13:15:02 recentChangesUpdate Special:RecentChanges type=cacheUpdate requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482278,timestamp=20180813131442) t=51 good
--08-13 13:15:02 refreshLinksPrioritized Sandbox rootJobTimestamp=20180813131435 useRecursiveLinksUpdate=1 triggeringUser={"userId":1696,"userName":"Saper"} triggeringRevisionId=72711 causeAction=edit-page causeAgent=Saper requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482275,timestamp=20180813131438) STARTING
--08-13 13:15:03 refreshLinksPrioritized Sandbox rootJobTimestamp=20180813131435 useRecursiveLinksUpdate=1 triggeringUser={"userId":1696,"userName":"Saper"} triggeringRevisionId=72711 causeAction=edit-page causeAgent=Saper requestId=69dc4b69b6232fe75f17ee66 (id=5482275,timestamp=20180813131438) t=1200 good
--08-13T09:15:01-04:00 ended 2018-08-13T09:15:03-04:00
-</pre>
-* After this, MPLx is available in the dropdown (both for input type=dropdown or input type=combobox for https://directory2p.fsf.org/wiki/Form:Entry):
-https://directory2p.fsf.org/w/api.php?action=pfautocomplete&format=json&property=License&substr=MPL gives
-<pre>
-{"pfautocomplete":[{"title":"MPL"},{"title":"MPLx"}]}
-</pre>
-</div>
-}}
-: [[User:Adfeno]] changed [[Special:PermanentLink/80790|Form:Entry]] so as to use <code><nowiki>input type=dropdown|values from namespace=License</nowiki></code> and [[Special:PermanentLink/80792|Template:Print license]] to make links based on the old [[Property:License]] entry be corrected to the corresponding license in License namespace. However, the old entries weren't updated and, as a side effect, old entries with licenses not in License namespace may appear as blank dropdown when editing with [[Form:Entry]], or appear as non-existing page when using [[Template:Show]]. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 14:19, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
-:: If this change is kept, then [[Property:License]] is no longer needed and, as explained in the comment being replied, the issues that are stalling this one must be fixed in order for this one to be closed, and to better reflect the plan to support SPDX notation. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 14:26, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
-=== General ===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=453654|text=
@@ Line 255: / Line 123: @@
 Pages incorrectly created with [[Form:Bug_update]] (without the "Review:" namespace prefix) are queryable. If they are then moved to the Review: namespace, then they remain queryable. I'm not sure if a non-admin can edit the page, which could let them create a false entry in the directory.
 }}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=212384|text=
-Update each GNU project with the GNU package name
-}}
 {{BacklogIssue|id=453224|text=
 Add "table of contents" header above tabs inside <tt>noscript</tt> tags so that it only displays when javascript is turned off.
@@ Line 270: / Line 136: @@
 "New Packages RSS feed"'s license verification dates are messed up.
 }}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=45ss54|text=
-Home page of every GNU package (yes, really) to be listed as <https://www.gnu.org/software/PKGNAME>
-}}
 {{BacklogIssue|id=d34234|text=
 Conditional statements should be created for various properties (e.g., "Audio:mp3" should result in "works-with::Audio" being set on a page automatically).
@@ Line 285: / Line 149: @@
 : On second thought we should use a dedicated module, so we can enlist the translations on the left user bar. --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 15:01, 15 May 2020 (EDT)
-===Import===
+{{BacklogIssue|id=set empty default values|text=
+This is a Semantic MediaWiki issue.
+I find that most of my problems concerning empty or missing properties in a template are helped by setting default template values. You might need to poke runJobs.php. Then you can query on the default value. So you might have Template:Software looking like:
+Software license: [[SoftwareLicense::{{{LICENSE|None}}}]]
+Then you can pick out the pages with undeclared software license by ask'ing on [[SoftwareLicense::None]] to get the ones that aren't declared.
+}}
+{{BacklogIssue|id=homepage should not be required|text=
+The "Homepage" field should not mandatory to fill in entries. For [[Icedove]] doesn't have any homepage and it shouldn't be set to the Thunderbird homepage because it's not free due to trade mark issues.
+}}
+[[FSD:Backlog#Donald]]<!-- always keep that link here -->
+{{BacklogIssue|id=non-official compiled or non-source releases|text=
+Should we add to [[FSD:Requirements]] that we only permit data related to official releases? For example, the current Windows download link for [[IceCat]] is unofficial, but it's made by jenslody@fedoraproject.org
+}}
+: (20:43:02) David_Hedlund: But it's still a unofficial release. I think we should discuss this policy.
+==Import==
 {{BacklogIssue|id=import GNU packages|text=
@@ Line 332: / Line 217: @@
 It's time to export the old add-on list https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:IceCat_extensions_(proposed)/ from the FSD, then import the new list with 600̈́+ add-ons, then merge the extra field from the backup to it.
+<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
-My example (look for differences) when I want to import 600 add-ons:
+<div>My example (look for differences) when I want to import 600 add-ons:</div>
-<pre>
+<pre class="mw-collapsible-content">
 {{Entry
 |Name=NoScript
@@ Line 373: / Line 258: @@
 {{Featured}}
 </pre>
+</div>
 }}
@@ Line 385: / Line 271: @@
 }}
-==Uncategorized issues==
+== Backlog Admin Group ==
-{{BacklogIssue|id=set empty default values|text=
-This is a Semantic MediaWiki issue.
-I find that most of my problems concerning empty or missing properties in a template are helped by setting default template values. You might need to poke runJobs.php. Then you can query on the default value. So you might have Template:Software looking like:
-Software license: [[SoftwareLicense::{{{LICENSE|None}}}]]
-Then you can pick out the pages with undeclared software license by ask'ing on [[SoftwareLicense::None]] to get the ones that aren't declared.
-}}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=homepage should not be required|text=
-The "Homepage" field should not mandatory to fill in entries. For [[Icedove]] doesn't have any homepage and it shouldn't be set to the Thunderbird homepage because it's not free due to trade mark issues.
-}}
-[[FSD:Backlog#Donald]]<!-- always keep that link here -->
-{{BacklogIssue|id=non-official compiled or non-source releases|text=
-Should we add to [[FSD:Requirements]] that we only permit data related to official releases? For example, the current Windows download link for [[IceCat]] is unofficial, but it's made by jenslody@fedoraproject.org
-}}
-: (20:43:02) David_Hedlund: But it's still a unofficial release. I think we should discuss this policy.
-==Client-side issues (Backlog Admin Group tasks)==
-These are issues that has effectively been collaborated in the Backlog Admin Group.
 {{TopPriorityBacklogIssue|id=Main page|text=
@@ Line 422: / Line 284: @@
 You have to reload the page in the browser to make the tabs visible (including the "Save" tab). Volunteers who doesn't know about will most likely not be able to update existing entries. --[[User:David Hedlund|David Hedlund]] ([[User talk:David Hedlund|talk]]) 08:50, 14 May 2020 (EDT)
 }}
+: A possible solution could involve defining a checkbox with opacity:0 (display:none doesn't work for this); make the tab title as a label for that checkbox; and style the tab content so that when the checkbox is checked, the contents show and all the rest disappears. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)
-{{BacklogIssue|id=Admin template|text=
+: Please could you extend this issue by adding a link to a video/GIF which shows the steps to reproduce the bug in a popular web browser? --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)
-When you visit a User page it's not obvious that the sidebar entry "Change user group" could used to figure out user permissions. That is why I've requested admins to state this on their User page so volunteers can reach them, because we don't got any contact page. However, user rights will change over time, for example, an inactive admin might get the admin user right revoked due to many years of inactivity. An easy way to automatically display the user right for admins on their User page could be done with https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RightFunctions
-}}
 {{TopPriorityBacklogIssue|id=display-a-Role-column|text=
@@ Line 463: / Line 323: @@
 :: The issue was solved, so we can archive this Active Backlog Task. --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 15:01, 15 May 2020 (EDT)
 }}
-===Semantic MediaWiki===
 {{TopPriorityBacklogIssue|id=High Priority Projects Project Teams and Translations|text=
@@ Line 491: / Line 349: @@
 [[Special:PermanentLink/80634]] has my attempt to fix most of these. I was unable to solve the case of [[:Category:Translations]] subcategories not being listed. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 22:06, 24 April 2020 (EDT)
 }}
-====Semantic Forms====
-{{BacklogIssue|id=form-entry-tabs-sometimes-not-visible-BAG|text=When loading [[Form:Entry]], there is a time sensitive bug which makes only the title of the current tab visible as a list item, and so hides the other titles. You can click the current title but nothing happens. The workaround is to reload the page, but that is not obvious to the user.
-A possible solution could involve defining a checkbox with opacity:0 (display:none doesn't work for this); make the tab title as a label for that checkbox; and style the tab content so that when the checkbox is checked, the contents show and all the rest disappears. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)
-}}
-: Hi [[User:Adfeno|Felipe]], please could you extend this issue by adding a link to a video/GIF which shows the steps to reproduce the bug in a popular web browser? --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 08:29, 5 May 2020 (EDT)
 {{BacklogIssue|id=form-entry-accessibility-BAG|stalledBy=#form-entry-licenses-proposal-BAG, #form-entry-resource-info-proposal-BAG, #form-entry-categories-proposal-BAG|text=[[Form:Entry]] is not accessible specially for devices with small screens or for text browsers, this is related to the use of table-like elements like the ones in "Categories" tab and also some other places where it could make use of list boxes and dropdown menus. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 21:39, 1 May 2020 (EDT)}}
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 }}
-<hr>Server-side issues</hr>
+== FSF ==
-==Server-side issues for the FSF Staff==
 Some work, like modifying the source files of MediaWiki, cannot be done by MediaWiki users themselves. We gather such tasks here so the FSF staff can help us fix them.
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 We need to enable [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate internationalization and localization] in our MediaWiki instance so volunteers easily can add new translated pages. For example [[Collection:IOS]] (4 languages) and [[Collection:Windows]] (3 languages) need the translation links in the sidebar.
 }}
-===Monitoring MediaWiki===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=job-queue|text=
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 </pre>
 }}
-===Semantic MediaWiki===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=icecataddons|text=
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 {{BacklogIssue|id=elic342|text=
 Entries with empty Licence fields should not be able to approve. It should only be possible to approve entries with filled License fields. This policy must include the automatic approval when pages are save.
-}}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=rt35234|text=
-Add required text for License. For Create, when a user try to save the page with Homepage not filled out the text '''There were errors with your form input; see below.''' will appear on the Save tab. On the '''General info''' tab the text '''Homepage URL (required) cannot be blank''' text will appear. However, there are no text that says that License fields must be filled if they are not.
+Also add “required” text for License. For Create, when a user try to save the page with Homepage not filled out the text '''There were errors with your form input; see below.''' will appear on the Save tab. On the '''General info''' tab the text '''Homepage URL (required) cannot be blank''' text will appear. However, there are no text that says that License fields must be filled if they are not.
 }}
+: For the first case (existing entries with License field blank when edited with form), these entries do still have their old '''property value'''. This is due to the fact that such entries weren't updated after Update-the-license-field was solved. However, when viewing such entries, the information is displayed as expected. With this in mind, one can keep both an editing and a viewing tab open to ease the process of recollecting the old license to match the new one. Finally, provided no other change to page listing on License namespace is made, future revisions of an existing entry and also new entries should display the information fine both on the form and on the view page. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 17:54, 18 December 2020 (EST)
 {{BacklogIssue|id=icecatun|text=
 List unapproved IceCat add-ons. We could reuse the source of https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special:ApprovedRevs&show=unapproved so we can tweak to show only unapproved IceCat add-ons.
 }}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=icliclst|text=
-License list is incomplete. How do we list all 251 licenses found in https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category:License to "Edit -> Licenses" for entries?
-}}
-{{BacklogIssue|id=licsyncd|text=
-Sync license data:
-<pre>
-(18:11:38) David_Hedlund: saper: It would be super nice if we could generate https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Property:License from https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=license%3A&namespace=0 -- do you know if that's possible?
-(18:29:24) saper: David_Hedlund: see https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special_property_Allows_value https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special_property_Allows_value_list https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special_property_Allows_pattern. I don't think it is possible (except for a bot rewriting it). The reason is that querying lists of pages on every page load will be slow and hard to cache.
-(18:29:30) saper: (but alas Semantic MediaWiki is already slow).
-(18:31:40) saper: or compare things and spit out the differences
-</pre>
-}}
-====Link text====
 {{BacklogIssue|id=Multiple software categories -temporarily fixed-|text=
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 * It didn't help to edit <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Print_software_category|Print_software_category]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> and replace comma with <nowiki>&#32</nowiki> in <nowiki>{{#if:{{{15|}}}|{{#arraymap:{{{15}}}|,|xvarx|<li>[[Category/Interface/xvarx{{!}}Interface:xvarx]]</li>|}}|<nowiki/>}}</nowiki>, see https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Template:Print_software_category&diff=48880&oldid=48746
 }}
-====Remove duplication====
 {{BacklogIssue|id=Remove duplicated entries A|text=
@@ Line 874: / Line 700: @@
 * Categories...
 }}
+: There is already a page for that, [[Special:Ask]]. Unless you provide more details and examples on how this request could be different from what is already there, I consider this a '''wontfix'''. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 17:59, 18 December 2020 (EST)
-===MediaWiki===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=wiki special pages|text=
@@ Line 940: / Line 765: @@
 My name is '''{{#realname:alt}}''' and I am an <nowiki>{{#ifingroup:bureaucrat| [https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special%3AListUsers&username={{#username:alt}}&group=bureaucrat&limit=1 administrator and bureaucrat] |}} {{#ifingroup:administrator| [https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Special%3AListUsers&username={{#username:alt}}&group=bureaucrat&limit=1 administrator] |}}</nowiki> of the Free Software Directory.
+There is also https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RightFunctions.
 }}
@@ Line 993: / Line 820: @@
 }}
+{{BacklogIssue|id=GNU links License not in SPDX|text=
+GNU website links to License namespace pages that are not identified according to SPDX.
+I'm not saying that we should fix all of those, since SPDX might not have all licenses. Besides, I already took care to discard public domain.
+This is visible at least on https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html, which links to the following pages --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 19:30, 18 December 2020 (EST)
+<div style="overflow-y:scroll;height:100px;">
+* [[License:AFLv3]]
+* [[License:AGPLv1]]
+* [[License:Apache1.0]]
+* [[License:Apache1.1]]
+* [[License:Apache2.0]]
+* [[License:APSLv1.x]]
+:: Tricky, since GNU website mentions it as a umbrella for all 1.x versions.
+* [[License:APSLv2.0]]
+* [[License:ArtisticLicense2.0]]
+* [[License:Artistic_v1.0]]
+* [[License:BitTorrentOSL1.1]]
+* [[License:Boost1.0]]
+* [[License:BSD_3Clause]]
+* [[License:BSD_4Clause]]
+* [[License:CC0]]
+* [[License:CDDLv1.0]]
+* [[License:CeCILL-B]]
+* [[License:CeCILL-C]]
+* [[License:CeCILLv2]]
+* [[License:Clarified_Artistic_License_1.0]]
+* [[License:ClearBSD]]
+* [[License:CNRI]]
+* [[License:Common_Public_Attribution_License_Version_1.0]]
+* [[License:Commons-Clause]]
+* [[License:CPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:CryptixGL]]
+* [[License:ECL2.0]]
+* [[License:ECos2.0]]
+* [[License:ECosPLv1.1]]
+* [[License:EFLv2]]
+* [[License:EPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:EUDataGrid]]
+* [[License:EUPLv1.1]]
+* [[License:EUPLv1.2]]
+* [[License:Expat]]
+:: [[License:X11]] is <code>X11</code>, while Expat is <code>MIT</code>.
+* [[License:fdk]]
+* [[License:Free-Art-L-v1.3]]
+* [[License:FreeType]]
+* [[License:GPL-PA]]
+* [[License:HESSLA]]
+* [[License:Historical_Permission_Notice_and_Disclaimer]]
+* [[License:IBMPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:IllinoisNCSA]]
+* [[License:IntelACPI]]
+* [[License:IPA_Font_License]]
+* [[License:JabberOSLv1.0]]
+* [[License:JahiaCSL]]
+* [[License:LaTeX_ecfonts]]
+* [[License:Lha]]
+* [[License:LPPLv1.2]]
+* [[License:LPPLv1.3a]]
+* [[License:LucentPLv1.02]]
+* [[License:MPLv1.1]]
+* [[License:MPLv2.0]]
+* [[License:MsPL]]
+* [[License:MsRL]]
+* [[License:Ms-SS]]
+* [[License:NASA-OSA_v1.3]]
+* [[License:NokOSv1.0a]]
+* [[License:NOSLv1.0]]
+* [[License:Oculus_VR_Rift_SDK_License]]
+* [[License:ODbl]]
+* [[License:Old_ksh93]]
+* [[License:Old-plan9]]
+* [[License:OpenLDAPv2.3]]
+* [[License:OpenLDAPv2.7]]
+* [[License:OpenPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:OSLv3.0]]
+* [[License:Phorum2.0]]
+* [[License:PHPv3.01]]
+* [[License:PINE]]
+* [[License:PPL]]
+* [[License:PPL3a]]
+* [[License:Python1.6b1]]
+* [[License:QPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:ReciprocalPLv1.3]]
+* [[License:RPSLv1.0]]
+* [[License:Scilab-old]]
+* [[License:SCOSL-3.0]]
+* [[License:Scratch]]
+* [[License:SGIFreeBv2]]
+* [[License:SimpleM]]
+* [[License:SISSL-1.1]]
+* [[License:SPLv1.0]]
+* [[License:Squeak-old]]
+* [[License:SSSCFR-1.1]]
+* [[License:StandardMLofNJ]]
+* [[License:SunCSLv2.8]]
+* [[License:TheUnlicense]]
+* [[License:TrueCrypt]]
+* [[License:Unicode]]
+* [[License:Universal_Permissive_License]]
+* [[License:UnivUtahRFPL]]
+* [[License:Vim7.2]]
+* [[License:W3C_31Dec2002]]
+* [[License:WebM]]
+* [[License:WTFPL-2]]
+* [[License:WxWindows_Library_Licence-3.1]]
+* [[License:XFree86_1.1]]
+* [[License:YaST-license]]
+* [[License:YPLv1.1]]
+* [[License:ZELv2.0]]
+* [[License:ZPL-1.0]]
+* [[License:ZPL-1.3]]
+</div>
+}}
 {{BacklogIssue|id=misc issues|text=
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 * Move [[Free Software Directory:Participate/Project Team]] to [[Free Software Directory:Participate/Groups]].
 }}
+: I consider this a '''wontfix''' since moving and making namespaces is expensive, the wiki administrators themselves must deal and better organize the structure they already have in meaningful ways, for example, avoid inserting a collection as a project team, since the goal of the collection page is to point to “curated” list of software for a specific purpose, not to give information of a said group that edits that page. --[[User:Adfeno|Adfeno]] ([[User talk:Adfeno|talk]]) 18:08, 18 December 2020 (EST)
 {{BacklogIssue|id=W3M and text based browser are hard to use forms|text=
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 </pre>
 }}
-===Suggestions===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=Upgrade history|text=
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 I believe that by promoting these services we can either solve this presented issue or contribute to it's solution. --[[User:Kreyren|Kreyren]] ([[User talk:Kreyren|talk]]) 21:05, 20 November 2020 (CET)
 }}
-===Donald===
 {{BacklogIssue|id=Logos|text=
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 * Naming policy. Shouldn't .png files generated from .svg files be named with the .svg.png to indicate that (example.svg.png)? This is what Wikipedia does: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/22/Heckert_GNU_white.svg/150px-Heckert_GNU_white.svg.png
 }}
-====Meetings====
 {{BacklogIssue|id=IceCatMeeting|text=
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 please read about the program and tell me which section that match best.
 }}
-==Software issues==
-===Server-side===
-The issues here are note issues in the Directory but in programs used by the project.
 {{BacklogIssue|id=CASAuth|text=
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 ** [[Free Software Directory:Pywikibot|Pywikibot]]
 }}
-====MediaWiki====
 {{BacklogIssue|id=reventry|text=
-<h4>Revision entry on plain oldiff page displays "$7"</h4>
+Revision entry on plain oldiff page displays "$7":
 The bug can be seen in the revision summary next to the page title. Go to the history of a page, and click on any of the links that are in the dates (example "15:14, 27 January 2018‎").
@@ Line 1,277: / Line 1,204: @@
 {{BacklogIssue|id=JavaScript errors|text=
+<code>InvalidAccessError: A parameter or an operation is not supported by the underlying object  ext.headertabs.core.js:41</code>
-=====InvalidAccessError: A parameter or an operation is not supported by the underlying object  ext.headertabs.core.js:41=====
+<code>TypeError: ss.rules is undefined[Learn More]  wiki:477:35</code><br>
-=====TypeError: ss.rules is undefined[Learn More]  wiki:477:35=====
+''might be mediawiki issue''<br>
-''might be mediawiki issue''
+<code>TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More]  ext.pf.select2.combobox.js:35:23</code><br>
-=====TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More]  ext.pf.select2.combobox.js:35:23=====
+<code>TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More]  ext.pf.select2.tokens.js:36:21</code><br>
-=====TypeError: pf.select2.base is not a constructor[Learn More]  ext.pf.select2.tokens.js:36:21=====
+<code>initFunction is not a function $.fn.PageForms_registerInputInit</code>
-=====initFunction is not a function $.fn.PageForms_registerInputInit=====
 <pre>
 jQuery.Deferred exception: initFunction is not a function $.fn.PageForms_registerInputInit/<@https://directory.fsf.org/w/extensions/PageForms/libs/PageForms.js?0b6cb:330:17
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 <em>Question</em>: should we maintain these old categories or should we transit completely to these new methods? --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 15:30, 25 January 2019 (EST)
 }}
+{{BacklogIssue|id=pending entries|text=
+On 6 Dec 2020, [[User:LorenzoAncora|Lorenzo]] pointed out an issue that unapproved and pending entries for the FSD could be construed as free software when they may or may not be free. [[Cyberduck_CLI]] was used as the example. After some discussion, key elements of the solution were obvious.
+# Any pending entry is CLEARLY marked (I say absurdly marked), that it is currently under review for inclusion in the FSD and we have not concluded that it is fully free software. If there is a way to change the color of a pending entry, that would be cool.
+# Control how and when nonfree entries show up in the FSD search and other web search engines. I think the default is to exclude as much as possible, but there may be unexplored advantages to include them in various search results. One undesired example being that if a user just searches for something, sees the search results include it as being on the free software Directory, they might assume the work is free without visiting the page.<br>One example: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?title=Cyberduck_CLI&oldid=82006, we could maybe mitigate old unapproved revisions with something like User-agent: * Disallow: /wiki*oldid=*$<br>I do not know of a way to completely automatically add unapproved entries to the robots file (and remove them once approved). There might be a way to completely do this using the API, some programming, and cron jobs. The robots approach also assumes that the scraper is following the restrictions in robots file which we know from logs and sysadmin emergencies is not always the case.<br>We should consider adding `<nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki>` to the unapproved message text.<br>I think I most of these search engine issues moving forward by making a robots.txt file (we did not have one) and taking a snippet from wikipedia and the mediawiki doc. https://directory.fsf.org/robots.txt, https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt, https://www.mediawiki.org, wiki/Manual:Robots.txt
+# Pending entries should have an educational component that allows visitors to learn more about the status of the entry. Talk: pages should work for this.
+# Reviewing an entry is optimally done in private, similar to our compliance guidelines. However, for this to be useful, we have to list nonfree programs so staff and volunteers don't repeatedly review the same program over and over again. The presentation of pending entries should not reflect badly on a program, but this may be tricky to do. suggestions? --[[User:Craigt|Craigt]] ([[User talk:Craigt|talk]]) 15:30, 18 December 2020 (EST)
+}}
+:: The bold mark on pages without approved revisions was a direct request by RMS, motivated by practical reasons. I think we can improve its appearance by reducing its size and using gray in place of black, but changing the color scheme of the unapproved revisions might compromise accessibility; the robots.txt solution won't work, because the Robots Exclusion Standard doesn't support regular expressions and globbing: <code><nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki></code> should be the most appropriate solution; software Talk pages are already used to start the revision processes and to add administrative notifications, but I could attach an extra documentation link to unapproved entries, using JavaScript; I think it is sufficient that the warning shown on unapproved pages maintains a ''purely technical'' connotation. --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]])
+::: It was recomended by [[User:adfeno|adfeno]] to make use of the [[Template:AttentionBox]] to increase visibility of an entry's status. --[[User:Craigt|Craigt]] ([[User talk:Craigt|talk]]) 13:32, 24 December 2020 (EST)
+:::: I don't think this is a good solution, for two reasons: the use of templates does not natively integrate with JavaScript or CSS and therefore would require manual changes to the code of the extension included in the instance, changes that would be difficult to maintain in the long term (also, using XHRs to download the template would degrade the loading performance); a big message saying "Warning!" violates the prerequisite of this Issue (<q>The presentation of pending entries should not reflect badly on a program</q>). I suggest to add a message like <q>This page revision is not approved and may not represent free software. Please browse the <u>latest revision</u>.</q> at the bottom of all old page revisions. I've produced a [https://i.postimg.cc/wMg59TvX/preview.png preview]. My mantra is: let's preserve the existing UX as much as possible, adding changes gradually and unobtrusively. ;-) --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 07:06, 26 December 2020 (EST)
+::: It was suggested by ggoes, "I think "is free software" would be clearer than "represents free software" Represents makes me think of some kind of spokesman thing. --[[User:Craigt|Craigt]] ([[User talk:Craigt|talk]]) 13:32, 24 December 2020 (EST)
+:::: Ok, the message can be edited without any problems, but we must all agree in order to minimize changes over time. The main problem is that ''all'' pages are subject to review and approval, so saying <q>is free software</q> might not be always correct in each context. I think that if the current message is too formal, we can replace ''represents'' with ''contains'' or ''links to'' and its truthfulness wouldn't be reduced. Additionally, we might even think about centring the message on the page if it's not yet prominent enough. I've produced a [https://i.postimg.cc/VkWWHtkY/preview2.png preview] of both changes. 🎅 --[[User:LorenzoAncora|LorenzoAncora]] ([[User talk:LorenzoAncora|talk]]) 07:06, 26 December 2020 (EST)